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BWFC Guest Article: Food For Thought

BWFC Guest Article:  Food For Thought

I'm losing faith in Dougie Freedman being the man to steer the Wanderers to success. Aussie Mike has already made up his mind, plus, he gets the taste-buds tingling...

The time has come for all, i.e. Fred, moonpig, Rob, Muur, Barney, etc to put their thoughts down.

We all accept players go through good spells & bad spells, (Spearing and Eagles to name but two). I don't like focusing on individuals as I see the more important task is how the team as a whole galvanises together and plays as a unit, a united force. For that to occur, everything comes down to the manager. It`s a sad day when our manager, Dougie Freedman, is that bankrupt and penniless with reference to the actual impact and success he has had after a year in charge, he has to tell the press about his coaching badges while claiming he is working on the future.

Let me remind him, you don't get points for future results, the future is immaterial unless your a pension salesman. The only thing that truly matters as a football manager is the here and now. The present gets you points; promoted or relegated.

I am convinced Freedman is following a script, written for him by Phil Gartside, driven entirely by the accountant`s mindset rather than football requirements. To claim he has cut the wage bill simply says we are broke, but what the hell has wages got to do with the manager? Nothing at all. Dougie is responsible for football and results… nothing else. Stuff the book keeping. He goes on about the academy - another way of saying we`re broke, we can't afford to buy players so we must grow our own.

Unfortunately, good footballers are not like carrots and tomatoes, where taste and quality is the same. All that truly matters is the bowl of footballers being served up now- the team that Freedman puts out this season- this is what we are eating. This is the only food that can keep us alive and in all honesty, if a restaurant served it up, we would send it back to the kitchen- its off, its not cooked right, the chef should be sacked.

That's the real problem, in reality Freedman has no idea how to get the best from the ingredients in front of him. He tries mixing them, changing the recipe, but everything he tries fails. It never comes off, so always leaves a sour taste in the mouth - you would never order that meal again. Dougie just does not have that ability or skill to become a chef or the nose to be a successful football manager. At Palace he was lucky, he had some fillet steaks on the table, they have their own wonderful taste, no matter who cooks them they are good to eat.

Writer:aussie mike
Date:Sunday October 27 2013
Time: 10:30AM


That's a real chef d'oeuvre on the rancid stew that is currently BWFC. As instructed I shall collect my thoughts.
27/10/2013 13:52:00
Right then, I have been out to the shed for a snout (it's raining and so windy I was worried I might end up in Kansas) and a modicum of thought collection vis-a-vis all things Wanderers did take place. Whilst musing on the current plight ("a dangerous, difficult or unfortunate situation" - OED) it did occur to me that all of us on here have been saying more or less the same things in subtly different ways for a pretty long time. GM came and went, OC came and went, Sam'n'Jimmy ditto (the former for the second time); now we have DF. It doesn't seem to me like much has changed and I'm sure that our Antipodean mucker would agree that the one constant is PG. I could, and indeed might, re-hash my views on these people; I could, and well might, re-hash the myriad thoughts I have expressed on here over the years. The point is that I and most of you have put forward vast numbers of well thought out ideas on matters such as tactics, management, personnel, booing, bums-on-seats, finances, kit design...the list is probably endless...but we have been saying the same things for years. And yet we are 2 points off the bottom of the second tier, 22 points behind Burnley and 13 points off a play-off place...and it's still October. We all know that recovery from this position is not impossible; we almost pulled it off last season. But how many of us can put our hand on our heart and say that this is realistically what we expect? It may be a pessimism born of being Northern or of being Boltonian or of being a football fan supporting a specific club but where do pessimism and realism converge...or indeed diverge? I wrote a long, long piece over the summer consisting of memories of Whites-related stuff (which I may share), all of it from a time when Bolton Wanderers Football Club mattered to me, it was squirelled away at the core of who I am. Obviously it still does or I would not be writing this but I am truly scared that the connection between me and the club is becoming a disconnect - that it is turning into indifference. I have lived in north London since 1981, longer than I lived in the North, but I have always been immensely proud to be Northern and even more proud to be Boltonian. Football and sport have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember and I have been a Wanderers fan for 40+ years; I really don't want to lose that aching, exciting feeling of supporting our club. I was with the mother of my children for 25 years - she was from oop north but hated football - I now have a new partner of 2+ years who is from t'south. I have taken her to Bolton twice, each time with almost childish, tear-inducing glee at showing her where I was raised(for the record she loved it). I FEEL being Boltonian and I want my football club to be great again, I want it to be what it was when I was growing up not what it has been the last few years. Wow, I really have rambled! What I think I am trying to say is that I have said what I think before, as have we all. Nobody takes any notice and we repeat ourselves endlessly. I am a primary school teacher who happens to specialise in PE and sport; most of my job I love but the classroom stuff is a necessary evil these days. We have a senior management team (lower case deliberate) which is a shower of waste product, issuing ever more baffling edicts and policy which us grunts at the chalk-face are supposed to implement on a playing field equipped with goalposts which move at speeds which the Higgs Boson can only dream of. Our succession of recent management (BWFC that is) with Captain Gartside on the bridge seem to have achieved the same. No obvious plan for the crew to follow, or at least one that they understand. Once the crew of HMS Bolton head out of port the oarsmen all row in opposing directions, the man with the map and sextant is looking in the wrong end and the admiral is nowhere to be seen. Now to specifics - DF is going nowhere so we need to get used to that. PG likewise. This season is a write-off (again). We need to ship a few players out who are expensive and under-performing. We desperately need coaches who can coach and motivate. Our development squad is looking good so give them a kick here and there. And as many have said, to hell with the future, we are in the brown stuff right now. The future can wait. That's if it's still there!
27/10/2013 15:50:00
I must say I was heartened by mentions of Lardel in an earlier thread. I remember seeing him warm up for a sub appearance at QPR. Never have I seen a fatter pro footballer. The living embodiment of "unfit". Both sets of fans took the p*ss. And he waved. And just came across two names for you all to mull over - Ebi Smolarek and Mustapha Riga!!
27/10/2013 16:01:00
Mick Mack said yesterday's game was pants. Good for him. DF came out with more corporate OC speak. Mind you he did say it was time we learned how to protect a lead which is true. Do any of you think we practise shooting? 14 shots, 4 on target, again! Probably down to Eagles hitting row Z on a regular basis.
27/10/2013 16:07:00
no real success in a year.......just 1 goal away from getting two clubs into the play offs in the same season. i say that's pretty damn good. if learning anything from liverpool, tottenhams board of directors is that it's sticking with your appointed man even though they might no be bearing fruit or imediate success that you was hoping for, but that sticking with them can pay off. .. getting rid of dougie will do damage, i can't think of any manager who we might be able to lure with our financial means will be able to make an impact on the team. hes brought in three loaness that have had an imediate benefit to the team and they wern't even his first, second or third choice for loans. this i a tough time at the moment, if we were in the prem in a relegation battle, i could understand the benfit of changing manager to rescue the club. but any newly appointed manager wont be doing a rescue job but a rebuild, they will have the same task of bringing in new blood either for the reserves or new signings and trying to get the best out of a previous mangers senior players.
27/10/2013 16:52:00
Dear Fred, its all very well saying DF & PG are going nowhere so lets accept that fact, the name slot on the office door says Chairman & Manager, it says nothing about them personally. what your really saying is if they are going nowhere the club and our beloved team are going nowhere also and that is what I vehemently object to. Since when did BWFC become the sole property of PG, he has failed and therefore should get out along with his team manager, for exactly the same reasons. Please recall that PG sacked OC with confidence lost on his ability to take us straight back up. DF was appointed to do exactly what OC appeared unable to do - get us promoted that same season, at worst he was tasked with improving the team and our performances given his " fantastic " ability as a manager. Sorry to disappoint but his ability as a manager has proved to be rancid, utterly inept, useless. We are a pale shadow of the team OC created, far worse in fact - forget promotion we are now candidates for relegation to division 1 and complete oblivion. So what happened to the agenda on which PG appointed this incumbent ? has PG decided to conveniently ignore the same, to use it as toilet paper for what its really worth - pure *****e. Make no mistake leave things as they are, to save PG further humiliation and we seriously risk complete oblivion into the wastelands of forgotten football teams. Its one thing sleepwalking into hell, its another thing entirely voluntarily going there with your eyes wide open. All tragic victims under the Nazis had no choice when forced to enter the gas chambers. We seem to be gleefully standing aside while PG throws his coins in the meter as DF shouts stand aside let me pass, " don't worry, its fine I am looking after the future " excuse me - what future does a corpse have ? none actually, absolutely none.
aussie mike
27/10/2013 16:57:00
if i remember correctly sean dyce was almost sacked, when burnley went in a completely different dirrection nearlt being in a relegation battle towards the end of the season. your food analogy was very funny and true but the bit about dougie being lucky at palace. am i confused about the job of a manager? the same manager put together a truly formiddable tteam. he was at palace for years, he brought in youngster who he had a personal impact being that he was there reserve coach for a number of years, he brought iin glen murray on a freebie, (where on earth is the luck?. one moment it's all the managers fault for us being in this CURRENT mess but when he has had great success you strip him of any praise asthough he did have a hand in their promotin. sorry but i'm hearing massive contradictions!
27/10/2013 17:24:00
#asthough he didn't have a hand in their promotion.
27/10/2013 17:30:00
Bowton I normally agree with your opinions but I can only think your spectacles are not only rose tinted but fogged up to boot. I too argued DFs case last year and until about 3-4 weeks ago. But things are going from bad to worse. The team look like they have never met or more likely don't like each other so can't even complete a pass half the time. The loanees no doubt look good but so did Spearing last year, he currently is awful, I am not sure what to make of that? Things did go well at Palace for DF but that can happen, I have no doubt he would flourish there again. It just isn't working at the moment and really should be by now this season. I know we did well for a few months last season and like many of us I thought we had cracked it. However as I have said before a good manager has a plan A and B. DF appears to have neither at the moment. I understand the lack of finances is a massive problem but it is one which is being compounded by allowing it to continue. Make no mistake any talk of the playoffs is aloof at best, we are embarrassingly in a relegation battle.
27/10/2013 18:05:00
i am fully aware of the predicament that the club is in gav. you'd would have to be an idiot not to realise. but the question/argument put forward is on if dougie should be sacked. i dont think he should (as i don't know of any managers who can take or improve the squad more than dougie could. ) we have to start to give managers a chance longer than a year. as i said before, if in a prem relegation battle i could see the benefit at making a gamble to stay up. but we are not in the top division, we have aims to get promoted, so no matter what manager comes in, they will be expected to be promoted. but most fans expect it first time, and that just isn't going to happen. so if i'm going to have to put faith and time in a manager, why on earth should it not be dougie?
27/10/2013 19:42:00
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